On this episode, Ashu interviews Josh Reeves, founder and CEO of Gusto, which is reimagining payroll, benefits, and HR for modern companies. Josh joins Ashu to celebrate Gusto’s 10th anniversary.

Josh explains Gusto’s atypical focus on building for “durability and accountability,” as against the usual Silicon Valley dogma of grow fast or die. He walks listeners through how he scaled the company in stages and the new muscles he had to build at each stage.

Ashu delves into how Josh successfully made the transition from founder to CEO, how Josh’s leadership style evolved over time, and how has this translated to Gusto’s culture.